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Paul Snyders's avatar

Really superb post on a matter of special interest to me, for several decades - thank you sincerely for this, Cynthia!

Not only am I a lifelong history geek (especially the stuff swept under), I was also raised in a cult, which included a special "school" (very scary scare quotes) designed by a man who was both the son of the cult's matriarch (and thus, immaculate and unquestionable, even when insane and abusive) and a mathematician who did work on duplex error correction on pre and early ARPANET.

I have no direct evidence whatsoever to prove any RAND connection to the school program itself - even very loose arms-length stuff, but every few years, I come across another very strange clue about how weird our school really was.

The combination of design your own curriculum - zero guidance (but huge pressure for results, considering you literally asked for it), insane levels of political and interpersonal competition (the golden boy could easily be shit of the week, next week - all depended on the dynamics needed for most effective emotional imbalance and manipulation) - random reward and punishment always being far stronger than rationally correlated, for real mind control...)

But then also very specific things. TONS of gaming. Chess and Go of course - but we were playing timed blind chess matches too - and Hex games on various board sizes (so we couldn't use just one adapted strategy - and this in the years before Hex was finally conclusively (mathematically) solved! We were also greatly encouraged to create our own gaming systems with all kinds of odd abstract interrelationships.

(everything from non decimal number systems to the five regular solids).

There was also language learning technology I later saw discussed by a CIA man from the same period. Scientific American every month, early computers.

But most memorable (and the one I have never heard anyone else remark on, from any other program) was our math training. It was always a highly competitive game, and usually weighted for players of many levels.

We used dice of many colours. Some get added, some factored, some are exponents or roots (and some younger players need solve fewer terms, for a super effective handicapping system). Never any money or perq for a reward - but in a hyper competitive structure, pride is THE prize.(think Ender's Game)

Here's what made it so memorable - several dozen of the best players, myself included, got to a point where we came to the answer through no logical means we could track. That is, the correct answer would present - but if we took enough time to double-check why that answer made sense - someone else would answer first and beat us!

I have heard of similar faster-than-standard-reasoning training in other areas before, and I'm sure someone else has done this with math drills - but it still reads rather "other-than" even a half a century later! Minds are very adaptible!

For any curious - yes an unusual number of scholars out the far side, with and without formal higher education. Also massive ongoing emotional problems.

Best summary I've found? - it was one half "Magister Ludi" (from Hesse) and one half "Electric Skillet" (from Brunner's masterpiece "Shockwave Rider")

Cheers for what you (and Matthew) do! Stimulating and inspiring for many more than ever say! Just as with the music biz I know still better than writing, we Canucks can be a tough crowd, but we're still reading and thinking junkies, too!

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And should you have a bored moment, here's one of my own attempts to explain reality to an audience which doesn't really want to hear (sentimental, rather than efficient, but someone has to go back for the slow group, right?) ;o)

- Anyhow - there are all of those relatives, yet to be persuaded...

https://paulsnyders.substack.com/p/third-act-fafo-and-the-suez-moment

Gilgamech's avatar

In my view RAND specifically and US nuclear strategy more generally is best seen as an attempt to generate rational approaches under conditions of considerable fear and considerable uncertainty. The evolution of RAND thinking demonstrates this was a difficult process but one that evolved in good faith. We should also acknowledge that it ultimately prevailed, despite taking existential risks with the fate of civilisation. The evolution of the strategy shows decreasing hubris and increasing realism, despite periodic forays into 'warfighting' strategies.

The author is presenting a caricature of the trajectory of RAND and of US nuclear strategy, as well as a caricature of systems analysis and OR, which is clearly just the repetition of the unsubstantiated opinions of secondary and tertiary sources.

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