All respect for your and Mathew's work.....so excellent, so many facts, wonderful....so many knowledge. Thank you very much. Greetings from Croatia. God bless you both
The question that arises in my mind is why we don't teach children to ask critical questions. After all in traditional cultures throughout the ages death was a companion of life.
Today we need the truth as best we can assess it. Since our ability to asses it is subject to our cognitive, emotional, and biological development, questions need to evolve such that developing children can employ them to good advantage throughout their life time. This is the basis of a true education. Not whether you plug into a factory system or not.
"We" don't teach them anymore, that's the problem. I'm writing this as my eleven year old nephew scrolls through YouTube. (It's quiet time and we're reading). Am I teaching him anything? Not really. I try in my own ways, but the overwhelming majority of information in his life has originated and will come from from web based digitally mediated sources, ideologically compromised schools and my sister who supports these sources of "education". What's to be done?
Sometimes I don't know, but until the institutions that control mass perception are compromised, the manufactured realities and the status quo they bolster will persist.
I never stop trying to prod in better directions, discreetly...
I think you underestimate young people’s ability to be sovereign. Disapproval by parents who want to teach their values to their children is no new thing, but probably happens every generation. ‘Let the beauty we love be what we do, there are many ways to kneel and kiss the ground’. (Rumi)
Above all our children want freedom to be themselves, as we do. My granddaughter of 13, does not want to eat with the family, but wants to decide what she eats, when she eats, and where. To the consternation of her parents.
Thank you Anna. The verse by Rumi is a good reminder. Lessons worth learning certainly can't be forced. Ultimately, each child is his/her own creature. Still, I don't hesitate to nudge and guide as honestly as possible. All children (and adults) need/seek love first and foremost. That's priority number one. Boys need some additional structure. My nephew, without a father in the house, suffers from a lack of it. I try to provide gentle guidance. Regrettably, I'm not a parent. I don't know what else to do.
Good luck with your efforts Troy. We learn in the doing. Even providing a structure against which he can rebel is providing a service. Just don’t expect to win. The pull of his peers is too strong, and trust that he will value your love and interest, though it may not always appear that way.
I understand. I remain surprised and profoundly grateful for the occasional young person that doesn't accept the received view. They ask very hard questions. Which leads me to this question of them. "Why and how did you arrive at your distrust of consensus reality"?
Of course I have to adjust the question for the age and development of the person. But still I am amazed it happens at all.
The only method I can suggest is questioning the received view. Remember this is a dangerous path it got Socrates killed. However when your nephew is watching YouTube you can watch it later or at the same time and develop a list of questions that motivates (if that is possible) your nephew to dive beneath the surface.
I'm forty seven and happened to be a very inquisitive child despite the fact that I struggled with adapting to public education. I didn't see a computer in the classroom at my rural highschool until my senior year. It may sound backwards and maybe it is, but early emphasis on literacy before school age and a somewhat isolated rural childhood allowed me the time and space to imagine and question reality without too many negative cultural distractions. Unfortunately, my nephew doesn't get to experience this freedom directly, but I do what I can to pose questions which challenge current paradigms without compromising his innocence (which has already been compromised enough). I was lucky to have read Orwell, Huxley, Vonnegut and enough "dystopian" fiction during adolescence that my "gears" have always been suspicious of consensus reality. I'm wired to inquire but don't always do my curiosity justice out of personal laziness, but I do try.
More recently, I endured a debilitating tick borne illness (babesiosis) which left me bed ridden during the entirety of 2020. By this time, I'd served a deployment to Afghanistan and had a first hand experience with life outside of the United States. Illness, personal experience combined with hours of daily online exploration during the height of COVID introduced me to Matt and Cynthia's work. I feel truly fortunate. Thanks for the question wm. Always food for thought.
Yes we live in interesting time (an old Chinese curse). I am sorry to hear of your health issue. What I say next is based on my life experience and questioning the narrative.
1st. My dad was WWII vet Pacific theater, Silent service (subs). He was lucky he came home intact. Other relatives were damaged, but none cognitively. With each generation of war (Korean thru to Afghanistan, I was lucky the Vietnam war ended before I was drafted), The cognitive ( not you, just generally), biological, emotional health has been severely degraded without just compensation.
Likewise health in the USA has been tanking. In 1969 when I graduated from high school the US was 4th in the world in health and longevity. Today 79th. What is going on?
I have been fortunate to have been born to parents that were skeptical. My dad definitely found WWII to be suspect. In 1963 my dad and mom leased 200 ac to grow our own beef, milk, chickens for eggs we already had a small family sized garden. Why? Both dad and mom felt the meat found in grocery stores like Safe Way was not meat. Meat did not have growth hormones, antibiotics etc, as far as dad and mom were concerned. To say they were pissed about the situation is to put it mildly.
So I have skipped corporate ag, corporate food, fast food, TV (dad stopped TV when I was in 5th grade). Don't own cell phone. Land line only. So you might say I am a knuckle dragger. I have been swimming against the tide of conformity and consensus since at least 5th grade. So we have something in common there.
However the environment to day is much more polluted than when I grew up. This is so from many points of view (Carbon has never ever been a problem). Mine is the continued destruction of the health of each generation via body mind and emotions, by various psychological, biological, emotional poisons. War has been used the most and is apparently the most effective and profitable.
I am curious if I have gone to far in this reply? I hope not.
Not at all wm. I must sign off for the moment, but I feel very fortunate have the opportunity to communicate with like minds/kindred spirits here on Substack. I'm relatively healthy at present, but personal experience with isolation, which can be mentally and physically devastating coupled with addiction (I tried to block it all out for decades, thank goodness it didn't work. Hard lessons.) leaves me thinking similar thoughts regarding reduced life expectation and current circumstances. One word, depopulation. It makes me want to live harder, wiser and better. It's something to strive for. Thank you so much for the thoughts wm.
I don't often comment here, but Cynthia's work has been a game changer for me.
> Of course, individuals are not encouraged to think about an absolute truth or reality. They are rather encouraged to think on a much smaller scale, on individual ‘facts.’ In this way, it is much easier to control and shape (and also limit) ‘problematic’ thinking such as the ponderance on cause and effect.
REPLY: Absolute truth is what I have been considering all my life. However my mind is limited and any truth that seems absolute is only provisional sense new experiences will effect my accumulated experience of reality.
> This is of course a program for the most ambitious reframing of ‘reality.’
REPLY: I support your view thus far. For example, the rush to vaccinate rather than support the immune systems was a glaring red light. I did the opposite. I continued a life style that enhances the immune system.
Over and over again it arises in my mind this question. Life on Earth began approximately 3+ billion years ago (See the books written by Dr. Lynn Margulis "deceased") by bacteria. Bacteria are true Terra formers. How did we ever get survive without pharma and the gene therapy injectables?
Regarding Snow as white or any other object as some color, we should recall that our cognition only takes a very small sampling of reality. Just enough to allow survival. Please consider reading the book "The Embodied Mind" by Varela, Thompson, Roach. The "Embodied Mind" examines the color of Snow relative to the cultures of the world that live with it. The Eskimos have very fine granularity of color for various types of snow. Their lives depend on the fine distinctions of snow.
So absolute color of snow is undefined. It is assigned by culture.
> Wondering if survival is better or worse than living? Definitions ?
Chief Seattle address this. Here is a brief synopsis of his speech.
Chief Seattle (1780 – 1866) was a prominent native American chief who pursued a path of peace with colonial white settlers in what is now the state of Washington. During treaty negotiations in 1852, he gave a famous speech in response to an offer by the U.S. Government to buy two million acres of Indian lands. Seattle asked: “How can you buy or sell the sky? The land? The idea is strange to us. What will happen when the buffalo are all slaughtered? What will happen when the secret corners of the forest are heavy with the scent of many men and the view of the ripe hills is blotted by talking wires?” His answer: “The end of living and the beginning of survival.” Are his prophetic words coming true in America today?
Today we and all life are in survival mode. The oligarchs think they thrive. The Earth is profoundly harmed by such people (the captains of industry). Consider North America before the Europeans came. It was vibrant and alive, a balance between all of life.
Sure there are those that point to a record of environmental negligence. Negligence is one thing. Deliberate desecration of nature to fulfill the vast void of greed is wanton.
> Might survival be a minimum? Surely it would be subject to context of existence.
Reply: As far as I am concerned your statement is correct. To thrive one must find a live style that brings health to body, mind, emotions, and harmony with the Earth, rather than the techno monstrosity called civilization. As much as you can put down the cell phone, leave the computer to rest and get out and walk in nature. Grow your own garden. You get the idea.
When you do this you will hear the deep nature of your being that accords with the vibrant Earth. The way ahead will clear for you. You can only take care of yourself. If you are successful, people will want to learn from you. Remember that life is free. Given to you. So when you help others it should also be free. Jesus said “freely you have received, freely give”.
Once Upon a Time ... might follow tomorrow (the literal and perhaps figurative eclipse of the sun)
The psyops of evil germs stays in place. Captured media stays in place. POTUS selection stays in place. Corrupt courts stay in place. Legislatures compromised by private funds and revolving doors with industry stay in place. Technocracy subsuming technology stays in place. Geoengineering and directed energy weapons stay in place. United Nations Agenda 2030 for "sustainable development" stays in place. The quicksand of faux resistance allowing few salient victories stays in place. The undermining of our food supply stays in place. Widespread hunger lurks on our horizon.
Chaos from all angles heralds the New World Order. Poetslife addresses the legions of able-bodied men illegally crossing our borders and attributes all bad things to Islamic terrorists, but ignores covert actions by intelligence agencies and the illicit influx of Chinese and other nationals. However, the scenario of Poetslife's alarmist post could happen one way or another. He cites the valor of women warriors fighting for their lives in contrast with the duplicity of people locked in fear over a perceived threat from their wards. Metaphorically, I don't have an axe, but want at least a cleaver in my kitchen.
A bill, HR66435/S 3428, is on the table to decapitate a sacred cow--the mother of a stellium of lapdog cutouts including the WHO. [from Dr. Rima Laibow, psychiatrist widow of a major general who was Commandant of the US Army Intelligence Center and School]
All respect for your and Mathew's work.....so excellent, so many facts, wonderful....so many knowledge. Thank you very much. Greetings from Croatia. God bless you both
The question that arises in my mind is why we don't teach children to ask critical questions. After all in traditional cultures throughout the ages death was a companion of life.
Today we need the truth as best we can assess it. Since our ability to asses it is subject to our cognitive, emotional, and biological development, questions need to evolve such that developing children can employ them to good advantage throughout their life time. This is the basis of a true education. Not whether you plug into a factory system or not.
"We" don't teach them anymore, that's the problem. I'm writing this as my eleven year old nephew scrolls through YouTube. (It's quiet time and we're reading). Am I teaching him anything? Not really. I try in my own ways, but the overwhelming majority of information in his life has originated and will come from from web based digitally mediated sources, ideologically compromised schools and my sister who supports these sources of "education". What's to be done?
Sometimes I don't know, but until the institutions that control mass perception are compromised, the manufactured realities and the status quo they bolster will persist.
I never stop trying to prod in better directions, discreetly...
I think you underestimate young people’s ability to be sovereign. Disapproval by parents who want to teach their values to their children is no new thing, but probably happens every generation. ‘Let the beauty we love be what we do, there are many ways to kneel and kiss the ground’. (Rumi)
Above all our children want freedom to be themselves, as we do. My granddaughter of 13, does not want to eat with the family, but wants to decide what she eats, when she eats, and where. To the consternation of her parents.
Thank you Anna. The verse by Rumi is a good reminder. Lessons worth learning certainly can't be forced. Ultimately, each child is his/her own creature. Still, I don't hesitate to nudge and guide as honestly as possible. All children (and adults) need/seek love first and foremost. That's priority number one. Boys need some additional structure. My nephew, without a father in the house, suffers from a lack of it. I try to provide gentle guidance. Regrettably, I'm not a parent. I don't know what else to do.
Good luck with your efforts Troy. We learn in the doing. Even providing a structure against which he can rebel is providing a service. Just don’t expect to win. The pull of his peers is too strong, and trust that he will value your love and interest, though it may not always appear that way.
Hi Troy,
I understand. I remain surprised and profoundly grateful for the occasional young person that doesn't accept the received view. They ask very hard questions. Which leads me to this question of them. "Why and how did you arrive at your distrust of consensus reality"?
Of course I have to adjust the question for the age and development of the person. But still I am amazed it happens at all.
The only method I can suggest is questioning the received view. Remember this is a dangerous path it got Socrates killed. However when your nephew is watching YouTube you can watch it later or at the same time and develop a list of questions that motivates (if that is possible) your nephew to dive beneath the surface.
Your mileage will vary. My very best wishes
Hi wm,
I'm forty seven and happened to be a very inquisitive child despite the fact that I struggled with adapting to public education. I didn't see a computer in the classroom at my rural highschool until my senior year. It may sound backwards and maybe it is, but early emphasis on literacy before school age and a somewhat isolated rural childhood allowed me the time and space to imagine and question reality without too many negative cultural distractions. Unfortunately, my nephew doesn't get to experience this freedom directly, but I do what I can to pose questions which challenge current paradigms without compromising his innocence (which has already been compromised enough). I was lucky to have read Orwell, Huxley, Vonnegut and enough "dystopian" fiction during adolescence that my "gears" have always been suspicious of consensus reality. I'm wired to inquire but don't always do my curiosity justice out of personal laziness, but I do try.
More recently, I endured a debilitating tick borne illness (babesiosis) which left me bed ridden during the entirety of 2020. By this time, I'd served a deployment to Afghanistan and had a first hand experience with life outside of the United States. Illness, personal experience combined with hours of daily online exploration during the height of COVID introduced me to Matt and Cynthia's work. I feel truly fortunate. Thanks for the question wm. Always food for thought.
Thanks Troy,
Yes we live in interesting time (an old Chinese curse). I am sorry to hear of your health issue. What I say next is based on my life experience and questioning the narrative.
1st. My dad was WWII vet Pacific theater, Silent service (subs). He was lucky he came home intact. Other relatives were damaged, but none cognitively. With each generation of war (Korean thru to Afghanistan, I was lucky the Vietnam war ended before I was drafted), The cognitive ( not you, just generally), biological, emotional health has been severely degraded without just compensation.
Likewise health in the USA has been tanking. In 1969 when I graduated from high school the US was 4th in the world in health and longevity. Today 79th. What is going on?
I have been fortunate to have been born to parents that were skeptical. My dad definitely found WWII to be suspect. In 1963 my dad and mom leased 200 ac to grow our own beef, milk, chickens for eggs we already had a small family sized garden. Why? Both dad and mom felt the meat found in grocery stores like Safe Way was not meat. Meat did not have growth hormones, antibiotics etc, as far as dad and mom were concerned. To say they were pissed about the situation is to put it mildly.
So I have skipped corporate ag, corporate food, fast food, TV (dad stopped TV when I was in 5th grade). Don't own cell phone. Land line only. So you might say I am a knuckle dragger. I have been swimming against the tide of conformity and consensus since at least 5th grade. So we have something in common there.
However the environment to day is much more polluted than when I grew up. This is so from many points of view (Carbon has never ever been a problem). Mine is the continued destruction of the health of each generation via body mind and emotions, by various psychological, biological, emotional poisons. War has been used the most and is apparently the most effective and profitable.
I am curious if I have gone to far in this reply? I hope not.
Not at all wm. I must sign off for the moment, but I feel very fortunate have the opportunity to communicate with like minds/kindred spirits here on Substack. I'm relatively healthy at present, but personal experience with isolation, which can be mentally and physically devastating coupled with addiction (I tried to block it all out for decades, thank goodness it didn't work. Hard lessons.) leaves me thinking similar thoughts regarding reduced life expectation and current circumstances. One word, depopulation. It makes me want to live harder, wiser and better. It's something to strive for. Thank you so much for the thoughts wm.
I don't often comment here, but Cynthia's work has been a game changer for me.
YW Troy.
Keep up the work with your nephew. I would be curious as to the path you are taking "to live harder, wiser and better"? Thank you.
I have a great deal of respect of Sasha Latypova and Catherine Austin Fitts. When you have time check out this link:
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/caf-on-depopulation-as-life-expectancy?utm_source=%2Finbox&utm_medium=reader2
Thanks for all you do and Matt too.
Hi Cynthia Chung,
> Of course, individuals are not encouraged to think about an absolute truth or reality. They are rather encouraged to think on a much smaller scale, on individual ‘facts.’ In this way, it is much easier to control and shape (and also limit) ‘problematic’ thinking such as the ponderance on cause and effect.
REPLY: Absolute truth is what I have been considering all my life. However my mind is limited and any truth that seems absolute is only provisional sense new experiences will effect my accumulated experience of reality.
> This is of course a program for the most ambitious reframing of ‘reality.’
REPLY: I support your view thus far. For example, the rush to vaccinate rather than support the immune systems was a glaring red light. I did the opposite. I continued a life style that enhances the immune system.
Over and over again it arises in my mind this question. Life on Earth began approximately 3+ billion years ago (See the books written by Dr. Lynn Margulis "deceased") by bacteria. Bacteria are true Terra formers. How did we ever get survive without pharma and the gene therapy injectables?
Regarding Snow as white or any other object as some color, we should recall that our cognition only takes a very small sampling of reality. Just enough to allow survival. Please consider reading the book "The Embodied Mind" by Varela, Thompson, Roach. The "Embodied Mind" examines the color of Snow relative to the cultures of the world that live with it. The Eskimos have very fine granularity of color for various types of snow. Their lives depend on the fine distinctions of snow.
So absolute color of snow is undefined. It is assigned by culture.
_____________
Wondering if survival is better or worse than living? definitions ?
Might survival be a minimum? Surely it would be subject to context of existence.
Hi Lance.
> Wondering if survival is better or worse than living? Definitions ?
Chief Seattle address this. Here is a brief synopsis of his speech.
Chief Seattle (1780 – 1866) was a prominent native American chief who pursued a path of peace with colonial white settlers in what is now the state of Washington. During treaty negotiations in 1852, he gave a famous speech in response to an offer by the U.S. Government to buy two million acres of Indian lands. Seattle asked: “How can you buy or sell the sky? The land? The idea is strange to us. What will happen when the buffalo are all slaughtered? What will happen when the secret corners of the forest are heavy with the scent of many men and the view of the ripe hills is blotted by talking wires?” His answer: “The end of living and the beginning of survival.” Are his prophetic words coming true in America today?
Today we and all life are in survival mode. The oligarchs think they thrive. The Earth is profoundly harmed by such people (the captains of industry). Consider North America before the Europeans came. It was vibrant and alive, a balance between all of life.
Sure there are those that point to a record of environmental negligence. Negligence is one thing. Deliberate desecration of nature to fulfill the vast void of greed is wanton.
> Might survival be a minimum? Surely it would be subject to context of existence.
Reply: As far as I am concerned your statement is correct. To thrive one must find a live style that brings health to body, mind, emotions, and harmony with the Earth, rather than the techno monstrosity called civilization. As much as you can put down the cell phone, leave the computer to rest and get out and walk in nature. Grow your own garden. You get the idea.
When you do this you will hear the deep nature of your being that accords with the vibrant Earth. The way ahead will clear for you. You can only take care of yourself. If you are successful, people will want to learn from you. Remember that life is free. Given to you. So when you help others it should also be free. Jesus said “freely you have received, freely give”.
My best to you.
Once Upon a Time ... might follow tomorrow (the literal and perhaps figurative eclipse of the sun)
The psyops of evil germs stays in place. Captured media stays in place. POTUS selection stays in place. Corrupt courts stay in place. Legislatures compromised by private funds and revolving doors with industry stay in place. Technocracy subsuming technology stays in place. Geoengineering and directed energy weapons stay in place. United Nations Agenda 2030 for "sustainable development" stays in place. The quicksand of faux resistance allowing few salient victories stays in place. The undermining of our food supply stays in place. Widespread hunger lurks on our horizon.
Chaos from all angles heralds the New World Order. Poetslife addresses the legions of able-bodied men illegally crossing our borders and attributes all bad things to Islamic terrorists, but ignores covert actions by intelligence agencies and the illicit influx of Chinese and other nationals. However, the scenario of Poetslife's alarmist post could happen one way or another. He cites the valor of women warriors fighting for their lives in contrast with the duplicity of people locked in fear over a perceived threat from their wards. Metaphorically, I don't have an axe, but want at least a cleaver in my kitchen.
War on the frontier:
https://poetslife.substack.com/p/the-french-and-indian-war-1754-1763
A bill, HR66435/S 3428, is on the table to decapitate a sacred cow--the mother of a stellium of lapdog cutouts including the WHO. [from Dr. Rima Laibow, psychiatrist widow of a major general who was Commandant of the US Army Intelligence Center and School]
https://drrimatruthreports.substack.com/p/must-watch-video-just-another-utterly
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